OLPC unveils first prototype of XO 2.0
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
IT-Accountant @ May 20th 2008 12:31PM
I call vapor.
Jeff @ May 20th 2008 1:05PM
word.
wako @ May 20th 2008 1:55PM
i only call vapor because i see OLPC as a failed project and 2.0 wont ever come out =P
Zach @ May 20th 2008 6:27PM
i was about to say .. i can just about breathe this damn computer.
Hackius @ May 20th 2008 12:33PM
WOW! WOOOOW!
I'd pay 300€ in a heartbeat for that!
ugg.tryptophan @ May 20th 2008 12:40PM
thats probably how much it will cost
Ronnie @ May 20th 2008 12:34PM
Osborne Effect - here's the X0 2.0 which is much more feature filled but please still buy those old X0 just like you would have.
Pochi @ May 20th 2008 12:34PM
Hey, I have a concept for a car that is going to cost $500!
http://www.blavish.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/02/veyron%20II.jpg
See OLPC? I can say a bunch of bullshit too!
greg @ May 20th 2008 2:46PM
damn thats a sexy car
Caleb @ May 20th 2008 3:37PM
I'll gladly pay you a premium for that Veyron of $550. And $600 if I can pick the color!
XGM @ May 20th 2008 4:27PM
Too bad that Veyron has been pushed off of the fastest production car.
Andrew @ May 26th 2008 1:35AM
Too bad the veyron is ugly as $H1T! lol
Idlemind @ May 20th 2008 12:34PM
"You sunk my Battleship...."
shoeofallcosmos @ Jun 14th 2008 2:10AM
ROTFLMAO!
ugg.tryptophan @ May 20th 2008 12:35PM
i cant decide if i should +1 or low rank, i think neither will do just fine
Jongscx @ May 20th 2008 12:37PM
Wait... didn't Nintendo already do that one?
Charbax @ May 20th 2008 3:59PM
Yup this is basically like a DS (which today probably costs below $75 to manufacture), sunlight readable, with probably 20h or more battery life, with two 7" 16:9 touch-screens, WiFi mesh and WiMax.
Richard Lai @ May 20th 2008 12:40PM
@ugg.tryptophan: go on, try the "!" button...
Zoroaster @ May 20th 2008 12:43PM
How will kids learn to type on that?
Charbax @ May 20th 2008 3:46PM
You could imagine somekind of $0.50 rubber keyboard layer you could strap on to cover one of the screens and which would simulate the touch of a rubber keyboard instead of having to type on a flat screen.
VerbalTachi @ May 20th 2008 7:27PM
"How will kids learn to type on that?"
Simple...same way we learned how to use the keyboards we use now.
keff @ May 22nd 2008 5:50PM
Charbax: that's exactly what I thought too - open the displays, take out roled rubber keyboard from a pocket, pout on lower screen and type nicely...
Esat Dedezade @ May 20th 2008 12:45PM
-1 for me.
You get some points for originality, but overall it's still in line with the 'first!' post and therefore must be penalized.
dudeInAmerica @ May 20th 2008 12:46PM
A new Microsoft Assimilation Device? No thanks. I'll donate to UNICEF instead.
Nastro @ May 20th 2008 12:48PM
I have never seen third world kids look so clean and stylish.
GRoar1 @ May 26th 2008 7:36PM
Third world......? What? Earth is the first world, ?????????? is the 2nd world, and poor countries are the third world? Can sum1 'splains 2 mee?!?!
Jon Doe. @ May 27th 2008 1:45AM
GRoar1 ,
maybe you should have been paying attention in your high school history class. then you might know what 3rd world countries are. God the ignorance on this board is staggering.
Blah @ May 28th 2008 3:29PM
GRoar1, if you're serious: The 1st World are the developed countries of North America, Western Europe and Australia. These countries have high GDPs and advanced economies according to the International Monetary Fund. The 2nd World was the Soviet Union and other Communist regimes, but the USSR went kaput and the 2nd World countries joined either the 1st or the 3rd Worlds. The 3rd World as you can no doubt guess are Africa and much of South America and South Asia. They're predominantly agrarian and frequently lack political stability. Nowadays the 1st World, 3rd World terminology is falling out of favor and people are instead using the terms Developed and Developing in order to make everyone feel better about themselves. Plus economists have come to the conclusion that it isn't quite so black and white as the old terms would have you believe. So now you know.
Wolfticket @ May 20th 2008 12:50PM
If that costs $75 on launch I'll go to my local trilbys'r'us and consume their entire stock.
Richard Lai @ May 20th 2008 12:51PM
@ugg.tryptophan: go on, try the "!" button...
ddub @ May 20th 2008 12:55PM
I've already tried the last comment route, sadly it wasn't the last comment either.
Hellios @ May 20th 2008 12:58PM
Looks like it's going to cost at least ten times more than the current XO.
ddub @ May 20th 2008 12:58PM
Maybe if every person on earth bought one they might break even on it for $75 bucks. Although I think if it was $75, every person on earth would want one.
YoJIMbo @ May 20th 2008 1:10PM
Just what the developing world needs!!! PONG!!!! Seriously... (pic on left)
Ryan Trevisol @ May 20th 2008 1:14PM
At least this doesn't look like it's made by Mattel. Props to XO for that.
oliver hart @ May 20th 2008 1:15PM
@ Lazerface- Is your sn an El-P reference?
And that looks like a big DS with a keyboard
Scot @ May 20th 2008 1:16PM
$75..? I'll take ten!
Reader @ May 20th 2008 1:20PM
I call your ten and raise you twenty.
mdm-adph @ May 20th 2008 1:20PM
You know, I used to really support the OLPC, defending it in forums, promoting it to people I talked to, but I don't bother anymore.
Agreeing to put WinXP on it was just the nail in the coffin, as far as I'm concerned.
Charbax @ May 20th 2008 3:52PM
OLPC has said from day 1 Windows XP would run on the laptop, in fact the OLPC XO is an open platform, which means any X86 based OS will work on it. It's just a matter of the OS to fit within the processor, ram, nand flash storage and other aspects of the laptop, and that's why it took Microsoft about 6 months longer to get it to work then for the Linux Sugar version.
If Steve Jobs invested the required R&D into it, he could possibly fit OSX on the OLPC XO as well.
And OLPC made Microsoft decide to licence Windows XP on the OLPC for $3, which is quite good considering Windows XP licences usually was something like $100.
mdm-adph @ May 21st 2008 10:54AM
Sure it's "open" and WinXP _can_ run on it. But is that really a good idea?
Microsoft Windows is great for us in the first world, where we have the money to afford being locked into a single vendor who's charging us whatever they want, but is that really good for those in the third world? I thought the whole point of the OLPC was to ensure that those countries _didn't_ get locked into a single vendor, and thus be at the risk being price gouged. Isn't that one of the main reasons why they picked Linux in the first place? Why there's a damned "view source" button that was built right into the keyboard?
And "Made" Microsoft license WinXP for $3? You make it seem as if some great concession was made. Need I remind you that "licensing" Windows to someone costs Microsft almost nothing? :P
fragge @ May 22nd 2008 10:53PM
Mate your argument doesn't make any sense, and reeks of linux/open source fanboy garbage. Lets go through it piecemeal:
"Sure it's "open" and WinXP _can_ run on it. But is that really a good idea?"
Yes.
"Microsoft Windows is great for us in the first world, where we have the money to afford being locked into a single vendor who's charging us whatever they want, but is that really good for those in the third world?"
They don't have software vendors in the places these will be utilised. What other vendor could they possibly buy from? What a stupid argument. And how the FUCK are you locked into MS? Moron.
"I thought the whole point of the OLPC was to ensure that those countries _didn't_ get locked into a single vendor, and thus be at the risk being price gouged."
Oh and here I was, thinking the whole point of the OLPC was to give One Laptop Per Child... Nope, guess its about not locking in those well informed 3rd world kids into a single software vendor! That's what the WHOLE project is about.
"Isn't that one of the main reasons why they picked Linux in the first place?"
No.
"Why there's a damned "view source" button that was built right into the keyboard?"
There's no mouse?
"And "Made" Microsoft license WinXP for $3? You make it seem as if some great concession was made. Need I remind you that "licensing" Windows to someone costs Microsft almost nothing? :P"
They lose ~$97 per machine. Sell 1 million machines, that's ~$97,000,000 lost in profits. Of course, it costs them nothing.. Money is a figment of your imagination. MS are practically giving away their software for the machine mate, and you are complaining about "lock-ins" - 1) There is no lock-in, that's absurd, and 2) What 3rd world kid fucking cares about a lockin? They fucking ASKED for XP because thats what we have - they thought Sugar was a load of shit, which it is.
Get off you high horse mate, you just look like another open-source freak.
Vince @ Jun 5th 2008 1:38PM
@fragge
Some of us like community-developed, free stuff. If you want to pay through the @$$ every year or two for the same unsupported crap, then be my guest.
Samuel @ Jun 14th 2008 10:37PM
@Fragge, your argument is pure ad hominem, and deserves a response at a level you can understand.
"Yes."
Yes, what? Why? If you're going to respond, support your claim. "Put up or shut up."
"They don't have software vendors in the places these will be utilised. What other vendor could they possibly buy from? What a stupid argument. And how the FUCK are you locked into MS? Moron."
Correct -- they don't have software vendors in the places these will be utilized. Note how many vendors WE 1ST WORLD people need just to keep Windows systems running. How the *FUCK* are you going to support a vendor-dominated operating system in a vendor-deprived environment?
Moron.
"Oh and here I was, thinking the whole point of the OLPC was to give One Laptop Per Child... Nope, guess its about not locking in those well informed 3rd world kids into a single software vendor! That's what the WHOLE project is about."
and...
"Isn't that one of the main reasons why they picked Linux in the first place?"
No."
Once again, the moron is Dead Wrong.
You see, they go together. The whole point they picked Linux is because it had zero, yes, let me repeat that, ZERO, distribution costs. Windows does not.
Why did they care about this? Because they also wanted a system which didn't have to rely on vendor support to maintain -- see counter-point above -- further reducing the cost. Yes, Virginia, they chose Linux for a very good reason indeed, which was to PREVENT vendor lock-in, which in turn PREVENTS excessive distribution costs.
It's all related.
Moron.
"There's no mouse?"
Goes to show you how much you know of the OLPC, now doesn't it, moron? Yes, there is a mouse -- there is a trackpad in the keyboard, at least in the unit I used.
Moron.
"They lose ~$97 per machine. Sell 1 million machines, that's ~$97,000,000 lost in profits."
More than made up for by the sale of software FOR the Windows platform (e.g., Office). Microsoft is a business with sharp economists in their ranks -- they would NOT make this kind of decision if they would lose money.
Let me repeat this: THEY ARE NOT LOSING MONEY.
"They fucking ASKED for XP because thats what we have"
There is also that small matter of legal imposition too; some countries are mandating the installation of Windows as a government requirement, not as a stated requirement by the end-user.
"they thought Sugar was a load of shit, which it is."
hmm...probably the only thing we actually agree on.
Atanas Boev @ May 20th 2008 1:28PM
Well, you can do basically the same thing with a TFT and Optimus Maximus for $2000. Oh, wait...
coffee @ May 20th 2008 1:32PM
ahhhh higher replacement costs, that's the goal of the OLPC.
Mike @ May 20th 2008 1:41PM
very intelligent thought :)
it seems they just want to give out alot to get alot
make demand with sexy cheap product
mass produce mediocre build quality of product
repairs keep the demand high for people that "must have it"
in the end, everyone gets a sexy generic laptop and OLPC rakes in loads of cash
ITRanger @ May 20th 2008 1:35PM
I must be seeing things ... are we in the year 2061?
I would have said 2001 - you know the Space Odyssey thing. But that was such a huge disappointment. No space stations, no shuttles, no HAL ...
XO 2.0 please don't disappoint me...
Chris @ May 20th 2008 1:37PM
LMAO, if this is even 900$ in 2010 and available itll be a miracle... looks super sexy even for an expensive laptop let alone for a OLPC... but i think hes majorly DREAMING
sracer @ May 20th 2008 2:39PM
...well, he was actually able to deliver on the XO. Granted, the drivers aren't all there yet, but the thing CAN run full Ubuntu/Xfce... including Open Office. It really is an amazing little device.